In last post, I berated the researchers for only using 400 IU of vitamin D as an amount to study. My reasoning was your body can make this amount in only a couple of minutes in the midday summer sun. However, the reason this amount has been used; it is the amount required for a baby to not get rickets. Think about a ten pound baby needing 400 IU or about 40 IU per pound of body weight per day. Since vitamin D is used throughout the body then the more your body weight the more you need. Ratio of body weight to the amount required should be carried out as the baby increases with weight.
I just rechecked the amount suggested by the governments NIH dietary fact sheet. This states that an infant 0-1 year old should get 400 IU per day for health. It then says that a lactating mother needs only 600 IU per day. So I guess they think that the mother can pass on 400 IU per day if she gets 600 IU? The idiots! Where is Dr. House when you need him? If we follow the rule of thumb, then a one hundred twenty five pound mother should be getting – 125 lb x 40 IU = 5000 IU per day of D3. At this level the mother may be able to pass along close to the requirement of the baby at 400 IU per day. Actually Dr. Bruce Hollis actually states that a lactating mother should be getting at least 6400 IU to assure that the baby gets the required 400 IU.
The NIH guidelines are made up out of the minds of the IOM Food and Nutrition Board. The tolerable upper limits for a baby is 1000 IU per day until six months and for the next six months the upper limit is 1500 IU per day. If we follow our rule of thumb, then the tolerable upper limit for a lactating mother would then be 12500 IU per day. This seems right to me. However, the guidelines state that the tolerable upper limit is 4000IU per day. This number is used for anyone over nine years old. It is like the government thinks when we hit nine, our body does not use anymore vitamin D with increased size – WOW! I think the researcher’s brains just stopped growing when they reached nine.
My daughter consistently took 7500 IU of D3 per day during lactation. She took five thousand IU’s one day and the next she would take 10,000 IU. The baby thrived. When she weaned the baby, she did not check to be sure the baby was getting vitamin D. The baby started to have colds. After two trips to the doctor, I convinced her to give the child supplements to assure the baby was getting between 400 to 1000 IU per day. When that happened the child got well and once again thrived. To accomplish this, she used vitamin D drops and put it in whatever liquid the child was consuming.
Always be sure that your baby is getting at least 400 IU per day throughout the first year of life. Or better, be sure the baby gets at least 40 IU per pound of body weight per day throughout its life. – pandemic survivor
The proper question to ask is not how much vitamin D during pregnancy, but what is the proper serum level of vitamin D during pregnancy. The reason for this is that every woman responds differently with serum level versus the amount of vitamin D they are getting from all sources. This has to do with the response of the body to various life processes that are ongoing.
Dr. Hollis in one study on pregnancy and vitamin D reported that a woman taking 6400 IU of D3 per day had a measured serum level of vitamin D of 20 ng/ml instead of the expected result; more than 50 ng/ml. The woman came down with the flu the next day. Whether it is a highly active need for vitamin D or a more long term need the body uses vitamin D at different rates. The only way to tell for sure is to have your serum level tested. The work of Dr. Hollis and Carol Wagner at MUSC has shown that in general pregnant women need around 4000 IU D3 per day to have a healthy baby and reduced complications.
What is the proper serum level? This has become the sticky issue. The IOM says that a level of 20 ng/ml is enough for 25(OH)D or the storage from of vitamin D in the body. The Society of Endocrinology has stated that everyone should have a minimum of 30 ng/ml. Grassroots Health has stated that the best level should be between 40 to 60 ng/ml. Dr. John Cannell of the Vitamin D Council says that the level should be above 60 ng/ml to get the best health effects. Are you confused yet?
The long established normal range for serum vitamin D, 25(OH)D, has long been used as 20 to 100 ng/ml. This is what is expected from the general population. People in a sunny country typically have a value in the range of 54 to 90 ng/ml (Grant and Holick). I suspect that the best that you can do for your body and maintain health is to be as if you lived in a sunny country. The studies that used only 400 IU of vitamin D and those that recommend this amount as adequate are well, quite frankly in the words of Dr. House –TV character, idiots. The value of 400 IU D3 only represents about two minutes in the sun and most likely will not affect your health one way or another. It disturbs me that we have spent huge amounts of money to study this amount of intake – we have been played by the researchers just so they have research money from the government.
Henry Lahore who has spent a great deal of time trying to put the facts together about vitamin D, has develop this web page specifically for mom’s and baby’s needs. This is really a great resource – thanks Henry! Overview Moms babies and vitamin D = Vitamin D: Before, During, and After Pregnancy Also the home page index so that you may explore other vitamin D specifics – VitamindWiki Home Page or www.vitamindwiki.com
Hormonal balance is the key to a happy pregnancy. Adequate vitamin D3 is the key to this balance. I love to be around women that are pregnant with a proper hormonal balance because they are so happy and full of love – the primary ingredient needed for health – pandemic survivor
The act of allowing a fetus to develop in the womb is wonderful and a blessing to and by humanity. To the give the baby the best start in the world I suspect love is the most important ingredient. However, giving the baby enough of the correct nutrients is also critical. I have several friends that are pregnant and are concerned about whether the mother is getting enough of the correct nutrients. So let’s look at the several things that modern medicine is ignoring that could have significant impact on a developing fetus and the mother and the safety.
It seems that modern medicine struggles with the two most important nutrients – vitamin D and iodine. Vitamin A, vitamin B, vitamin D, and iodine work in a synergistic manager to allow the total expression of the genetic map. The World Health Organization says that iodine deficiency is now accepted as the most common cause of preventable brain damage in the world. I suspect most cases of postpartum depression are iodine deficiency because the baby took all that the mother had. It is not just this nutrient or that nutrient; it is the combination of all nutrients working together. Some day medicine will discover that using analysis of the variants is flawed and allows for too much misadventure. The change to analysis of the means will give a much better picture of the influence of a substance and more importantly the interactions.
My daughter took an average of 7500 IU of D3 per day and had a wonderful experience as I described in this post: Pregnancy and Lactating Mothers. The only misfortunate thing that happened was she had to change doctors because of incompetence of the doctor.
The best start to this exploration is to listen to Carole Baggerly of Grassroots Health interview Dr. Carol Wagner. They discuss a recent study on the safety of vitamin D and pregnancy. The study used 4000 IU per day of vitamin D3 as this is an amount that the IOM says is safe to use for supplementation without discussing it with your doctor. D*Facts Pregnancy is really interesting as the women are giddy with the results showing reduction in complications. I share their excitement. Here is the video –D*Facts Pregnancy.
An act of love results as a blessing – pandemic survivor.
My daughter and mother of my new grandbaby took vitamin D during her pregnancy and also now that she is breast feeding. She read the research and followed the suggestions of Dr. Bruce Hollis of the Medical University of South Carolina. The full term natural birth was without incidence and the baby is doing great! Not that there is any bias on my part. My daughter is a practicing pharmacist at a local university hospital. When she asked her doctor to check her serum level of vitamin D when she was pregnant the doctor told her that it was not an important nutrient and refused to give her the test. She changed doctors.
You can see this same reaction by doctors from this recent article at CNN describing the presentation of a new paper on pregnancy and vitamin D that was presented in Vancouver, BC by Dr. Hollis. Here is another article from the Vancouver Sun on the same topic. You should read both as there is more information about how the vitamin was thought to be bad for pregnancy based on poor science. Also they were most likely using D2 which is a ‘big don’t do it’. In the CNN article you can see the contention among doctors as the battle on how much you take continues. This quote from the article by Dr. Hollis: “The conventional wisdom about the dangers of too much vitamin D was “manufactured and based on flawed data,” he says. “There was never any real harm, just misconceptions.”
During the pregnancy she took 5,000 IU of D3 per day. Now she is taking an average of 7,500 IU per day. 5,000 IU one and then 10,000 IU the next. She recently had her serum 25(OH)D checked and it was 67 ng/ml or right where you would expect it to be for a person in a sunny country. This assures that the breast feeding baby is getting about 400 IU of D3 per day.
The baby does not seem to have any intestinal issues and does not cry except when is hungry or needs a diaper change. She started to sleep through the night after 10 weeks. She is alert and just – well happy.
Another survivor story before the problem began. – Pandemic Survivor